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 Post subject: Re: SMC Opening Re-Drawn in '90s Style
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:50 am 
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That's true. It's bewildering that some people can't see that.


I can see it entirely, especially with the eyes. How the eyes were drawn in the 90's anime looked resemble the manga eyes, whereas Crystal is the exact opposite.

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I still say I feel it is illogical for people to claim that Crystal is closer to the artstyle of the manga then the 90s when it reality the opposite is true.

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The video was crap.

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I still say I feel it is illogical for people to claim that Crystal is closer to the artstyle of the manga then the 90s when it reality the opposite is true.


It's really to disagree with you on this statement. In fact, I fully agree with you. Crystal's character designs appear slightly similar to the manga's art style, namely the kanzenban covers. But, if you actually look inside the pages of the manga itself, the 90's character designs feel more like those actual manga.

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The video was crap.

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The video was crap.

:googly: Well, Crystal fans wouldn't be able to recognize high-quality animation and proportional, appealing design if it hit them in the face. :mischief: So, this is really a compliment coming from you! :tongue:

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The video was crap.


You're entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine. Therefore, I respectfully disagree with your opinion.

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Hoping some day PGSM gets the same treatment. I really don't mind if its 90's, Ando, S2 or S3 style.

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Sailor Starlight wrote:
Sera-V wrote:
The video was crap.

:googly: Well, Crystal fans wouldn't be able to recognize high-quality animation and proportional, appealing design if it hit them in the face. :mischief: So, this is really a compliment coming from you! :tongue:


I think you should refrain making such comments in risk of making this thread locked because you were actually one of the reasons we are one strike away from getting this thread locked.




Personally I am a fan of the 90's style although I prefer the anaesthetic look of the manga and in some of Crystals work (when they actually put effort in). I also did notice that Rei's solo shot in the first verse didn't seem to look her her 90's anime counterpart that much.

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Hoping some day PGSM gets the same treatment. I really don't mind if its 90's, Ando, S2 or S3 style.


That would be a dream come true.

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Sailor Starlight wrote:
Sera-V wrote:
The video was crap.

:googly: Well, Crystal fans wouldn't be able to recognize high-quality animation and proportional, appealing design if it hit them in the face. :mischief: So, this is really a compliment coming from you! :tongue:


Now now, no need to get defensive. You're ability to decipher between positive and negative feedback is suffering from it.

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The video was crap.

While I disagree I'll defend to the death your right to say it :o

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Funny typo & funny pic from a patient's angle. :lol:

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Rika-Chicchi wrote:
Maraviollantes wrote:
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Funny typo & funny pic from a patient's angle. :lol:


It was intentional, the manga puts me to sleep... just kidding!

I also beg to disagree with the 90's looking like the Manga. If you look at Naoko Takeuchi's cel shaded artwork, you can clearly see how different the eyes are.


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 Post subject: Re: SMC Opening Re-Drawn in '90s Style
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^ The original '90s anime' s designs were based on Naokoi's initial designs that can be found in the first section of the Materials Collection and the first run of the Dark Kingdom arc in Nakayoshi (rounder eyes and faces, plump bodies). Of course, Naoko's designs changed radically throughout the series (Naoko literally had to go back and redraw Usagi's odangos for the first tankobon because at that point she changed her design completely), but it's not entirely the fault of the original anime that it opted for consistency.


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I also don't think anyone's saying the 90s anime looks *identical* to the manga, just that it's a lot closer to the manga's style than Crystal is, which is clearly the case.

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I remember reading an interview that Naoko gave to a magazine in the 90s that was translated to Portuguese. I wish I could find the link because it's an incredible interview.

In any event, when asked about her inspiration, she said that her drawings were heavily inspired by those of a manga artist (whose name I forgot, sorry) who drew women with perfect slim bodies and long limbs. I think the Crystal designs from S1 and S2 were reflecting that.

She was asked to deliver a message to her fans, and she told them to "read, read a lot," particularly about how we, as humans, experience love.

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I remember reading an interview that Naoko gave to a magazine in the 90s that was translated to Portuguese. I wish I could find the link because it's an incredible interview.

In any event, when asked about her inspiration, she said that her drawings were heavily inspired by those of a manga artist (whose name I forgot, sorry) who drew women with perfect slim bodies and long limbs. I think the Crystal designs from S1 and S2 were reflecting that.

She was asked to deliver a message to her fans, and she told them to "read, read a lot," particularly about how we, as humans, experience love.

Is that the same interview where she was asked how she deals with stress? :o

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I remember reading an interview that Naoko gave to a magazine in the 90s that was translated to Portuguese. I wish I could find the link because it's an incredible interview.

In any event, when asked about her inspiration, she said that her drawings were heavily inspired by those of a manga artist (whose name I forgot, sorry) who drew women with perfect slim bodies and long limbs. I think the Crystal designs from S1 and S2 were reflecting that.

That sounds like fashion designers' drawings. :lol:

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I remember reading an interview that Naoko gave to a magazine in the 90s that was translated to Portuguese. I wish I could find the link because it's an incredible interview.

In any event, when asked about her inspiration, she said that her drawings were heavily inspired by those of a manga artist (whose name I forgot, sorry) who drew women with perfect slim bodies and long limbs. I think the Crystal designs from S1 and S2 were reflecting that.

That sounds like fashion designers' drawings. :lol:


While it is true that she has been influenced by fashion designers, this was a particular manga author. ;)

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I remember reading an interview that Naoko gave to a magazine in the 90s that was translated to Portuguese. I wish I could find the link because it's an incredible interview.

In any event, when asked about her inspiration, she said that her drawings were heavily inspired by those of a manga artist (whose name I forgot, sorry) who drew women with perfect slim bodies and long limbs. I think the Crystal designs from S1 and S2 were reflecting that.

That sounds like fashion designers' drawings. :lol:


While it is true that she has been influenced by fashion designers, this was a particular manga author. ;)

I was aware of that since you'd already mentioned that - my above comment is just based on that bolded line above & all. lol

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I remember reading an interview that Naoko gave to a magazine in the 90s that was translated to Portuguese. I wish I could find the link because it's an incredible interview.

In any event, when asked about her inspiration, she said that her drawings were heavily inspired by those of a manga artist (whose name I forgot, sorry) who drew women with perfect slim bodies and long limbs. I think the Crystal designs from S1 and S2 were reflecting that.

She was asked to deliver a message to her fans, and she told them to "read, read a lot," particularly about how we, as humans, experience love.

I think the person Naoko Takeuchi was speaking of was Leiji Matsumoto aka the creator of the Captain Harlock series, Galaxy Express 999 etc.

That being said to DREWdesu the 90s style isn't identical to the manga but it is closer then any season of Crystal. I mean just look at Beryl for instance.

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The animator posted the videos on NicoNico. He wrote the following in the description. Can anyone translate what it says?

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31895361

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31899849

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前回の投稿からかなり月日が経ちました・・・。
初の描いてみた動画です。

セーラームーンCrystal2期は90年代版で言えばセーラームーンRに相当しますが、絵柄はS~SSの伊藤郁子様の作画を意識してます。
人によってはTai!っぽく見えるところがあるかもしれない。そして似ていないかもしれない。

ズームアウトが上手くいかなかったので、省略or大変なクオリティに仕上がりました。
背景も略しまくってますので注意です。

表情・武器・ポージングetc.と色々と変更しておりますので注視してみてくださいませ。
塗るつもりもその技術もないので、これが完成形ということで。
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^ Just a summary:

- It's his 1st animation work.
- Even tho the 2nd season of Crystal is equivalent to R in the 90s anime, he based it on Ito Ikuko's styles in S & SuperS.
- After mentioning its several shortcomings, he asks us to note the changes in the facial expressions, weapons, postures, etc.
- He doesn't have the skills to color it, so it's already in its finished form.
- He asks us to try guessing the name of that Droid handled by Venus.

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I didn't notice the droids until you translated it Rika. ^_^'


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Can anyone translate what it says?
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前回の投稿からかなり月日が経ちました・・・。
初の描いてみた動画です。

セーラームーンCrystal2期は90年代版で言えばセーラームーンRに相当しますが、絵柄はS~SSの伊藤郁子様の作画を意識してます。
人によってはTai!っぽく見えるところがあるかもしれない。そして似ていないかもしれない。

ズームアウトが上手くいかなかったので、省略or大変なクオリティに仕上がりました。
背景も略しまくってますので注意です。

表情・武器・ポージングetc.と色々と変更しておりますので注視してみてくださいませ。
塗るつもりもその技術もないので、これが完成形ということで。
最後は余力で遊びました。

ヴィーナスがなぎ払ってるドロイドの名前を当ててみよう。


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^ Just a summary:

- It's his 1st animation work.
- Even tho the 2nd season of Crystal is equivalent to R in the 90s anime, he based it on Ito Ikuko's styles in S & SuperS.
- After mentioning its several shortcomings, he asks us to note the changes in the facial expressions, weapons, postures, etc.
- He doesn't have the skills to color it, so it's already in its finished form.
- He asks us to try guessing the name of that Droid handled by Venus.

Rika-Chicchi is trolling you, guys. Actually, it's a recipe for Japanese chicken katsu curry. It says in the end to add ginger and chili pepper for better taste. :ninja:

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^ Would welcome anyone to do a full, word-by-word translation of it to see if there's a recipe in it that I've probably overlooked. :lol:

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^ The original '90s anime' s designs were based on Naokoi's initial designs that can be found in the first section of the Materials Collection and the first run of the Dark Kingdom arc in Nakayoshi (rounder eyes and faces, plump bodies). Of course, Naoko's designs changed radically throughout the series (Naoko literally had to go back and redraw Usagi's odangos for the first tankobon because at that point she changed her design completely), but it's not entirely the fault of the original anime that it opted for consistency.


I think what you said really hit the nail on the head, and I agree with all of it.

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