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Today my friends got in a fight.
girl is annoyed by the boy and starts to hit him with peice of paper and a book
boy slaps girl (hard) on the arm
another friend said that bassicaly she disserved to get hit because no one should be hitting anyone.
I say that he hit her a lot harder than she hit him so he is wrong
what do you think

I think hitting in general is just wrong. That isn't something that anyone should be doing. I understand that it happens sometimes, but I just think it's silly. I don't know if that is necessarily violence against women, since it sounds like she hit him first (?)

She did but he hit her harder (like a real hit)

The title of this thread plays up the topic more than it should, imo.

Anyway, I think some females in general think it's okay to hit a male, because they do not expect retaliation.

I think if you're even playfully throwing punches, you've made yourself fair game, no matter your gender. I have a couple friends who used to get allll bent out of shape back in the day if they actually provoked a male friend into giving a return hit. No way. Fair game. If you don't want to get hit, don't provoke anyone.

(I speak of little "play fights" here, not real violence. Although, if a female does become truly and dangerously aggressive towards a male, I do think he is also within his rights to defend himself.)

True True but sadly some people think otherwise Maby its just the way I was raised is to why I was so upset.

Have to consider the factor that men are generally physically stronger than women - there're exceptions, of course, & physical strength also isn't the only factor to be considered, e.g. if the woman in question is a martial arts expert (but not the man), even if she's physically smaller & weaker than the man she can still inflict considerable & even fatal damages on his body.

I've also seen some very nasty cases of physical violence inflicted on men by women (not those exception cases I've mentioned above, tho, but something like attacking the man while he's asleep or drugged by the woman), but generally speaking it's still that in most cases, it's an asymmetrical duel in physical violence between men & women.

And in any case, unless it's for sports, law enforcement, or war (which's politically controversial, tho), violence is always a bad thing, especially between intimate ones.

Because my city had the most fucked up shootings in our history, I'm a bit iffy on the subject.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole ... e_massacre

I've seen this type of concept thread on the TwiSucksforums because it seems like if a guy hits a girl, girl can scream bloody murder. Yet, if the roles are reversed, girl gets away being a puppy and everyone mocks the man because he got hit by a girl.

Folks don't realized that we use a sign of hitting each other for either telling the other person to back off or sign of punishment/obediance. If person can't use words to defend themselfs, they will use their fists.

I do condone the violence against women, but you have to realize that even men get abused too. It's just society thinks women are considered "weaker" because they're still constantly potrayed of being the damsel that can't do a I need a hug all in her life so when her life ends tragically, people really do feel her pain.

When men are abused by women (physically &/or otherwise), especially in an intimate relationship, they're generally less inclined to seek professional helps. And the judiciary establishment also tends to favor the woman in cases involving assaults between a man & a woman (tho it has a reason for that). So it has something to do w/ the current social concepts regarding genders. However, it's also an objective fact that women are generally physically weaker than men (w/ exception cases such as the ones I mentioned in my last post above), so one has to consider that, too.

Totally agree. In fact, men are in a no-win situation when it comes to physical abuse from women. You try to call the cops on her, & they will choose to believe her over you, & will arrest you on the spot. And they're not going to believe you unless there's a witness involved that saw the whole incident, such as a innocent child. If you don't, then the cycle of abuse continues onto you from the woman. Ever watched the movie called "Men Don't Tell?" That's exactly what it's all about.

Police are so stupid to think that abuse never comes from a woman beating a man & will always believe that they could do no wrong.

Here's one of the websites talking about this. You can also read their stories as well:

http://www.batteredmen.com/

Not all the time. on cops this man reported that a woman beat him and they arrested her even though she said many times that she did not touch him.
it has also been proven that a woman can hit just has hard as a man.

That website's actually a really interesting read. It seems like these guys don't just deal with physical abuse, but lying and emotional abuse. I'd dread being a male in such a relationship. Apparently abusive women like to "play the victim" as well, making their partners' situations even more difficult. Yuck.

EDIT: Actually, I do personally know someone in such a situation - his wife constantly breaks and destroys things. She calls him just to hang up on him. She put knife holes all through an item he had borrowed from a friend. It's really awful, and while its much different than just hitting, it still hurts him.

If a woman can indeed hit as hard as a man, I must not be one of them.

^ Non-physical abuses can hurt as much as the physical ones, if not even more - in extreme cases, they can even lead to the victims committing suicides.

I kinda feel that you need to accept consequences. You can't hit a man and then get angry if he hits back.

Moral of the story: Don't hit someone if you can't handle the person hitting you in return.

Makes me think of this: http://www.theage.com.au/national/strik ... -ioyk.html

Happened not too long ago, not too far away. We had just covered defensive homicide and every case was women being beaten by their husbands, which was entirely the basis for the law's introduction; it was interesting to see how the public reacted to this and consider how they might have done some time ago.

I think in the case of physical attack, however, it gets more complex - there is that consideration of strength and size and capacity to defend yourself to take into account. But then again, don't hit if you don't at least anticipate being hit in return.

Interesting - thx for sharing. Familial violence (& in this case, homicide) cases are often tricky or even challenging for law enforcement as well as the judiciary, & often require the help of various expert witnesses. It's still a sad story, tho.

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agreed, both genders should be brought up not to hit each other, not just the guys.

No Man should be beating up
any girls (a man should be
like a man and talk over it
or just endure with it )

There is an intresting thing happening sometimes: when a man is trying to protect a woman against another violent man the woman is on the violent man's side. I can't understeand this!

...what are you talking about?

(Besides making sweeping generalizations about stuff. But.)

One day my mother camed across to a man that was violent towards a woman. She tryed to defenend the woman, but the woman sayed to my mother something like "what's you problem?". I can't understeand that woman.

So you have a third-party report from your mother about one woman who was angry about someone interfering with her problems and you decided this is an ongoing trend in violence against women?

One statistical figure I've read on Mar. 8 is that the #1 cause of death for women worldwide between 15 & 55 (sorry, the ages aren't accurate - can't remember exactly, but it's around that) is violence inflicted by men.

Another news I've read yesterday is a Pentagon report that 1 in 3 servicewomen of the US has been sexually assaulted in one way or another (I've forgotten whether the figure is an overall one or just for those serving overseas, who're much more susceptible to sexual violence by their colleagues). And the figures on reporting rate & conviction rate are also grim, due to a number of organizational & structural factors in the military which I won't detail here.

I know!!I agree with you.

What?